Comments on: John Ellis, live tweeting, and the meaning of words https://scratchmybrain.com/2009/09/08/john-ellis-live-tweeting-and-the-meaning-of-words/ Jeff Albert's blog Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:48:23 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.7 By: Grant https://scratchmybrain.com/2009/09/08/john-ellis-live-tweeting-and-the-meaning-of-words/comment-page-1/#comment-54492 Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:48:23 +0000 http://scratchmybrain.com/?p=798#comment-54492 Gregoire Marét has blown me away every time I’ve heard him play.

]]> By: Jeff Albert https://scratchmybrain.com/2009/09/08/john-ellis-live-tweeting-and-the-meaning-of-words/comment-page-1/#comment-54489 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:08:43 +0000 http://scratchmybrain.com/?p=798#comment-54489 Well, we don’t have to look far to finds words that have been used prevalently inside the community that they derogate. I would like to see evidence of the term’s origination. I know it is used in the jazz community, but I have no reason to believe it originated there. I have heard jazzer used widely within the jazz community as well.

Duke probably said that (about Tizol) before World War II. I hope our thinking (and the language that expresses that thought) has evolved since then.

]]> By: Alex https://scratchmybrain.com/2009/09/08/john-ellis-live-tweeting-and-the-meaning-of-words/comment-page-1/#comment-54488 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 00:42:25 +0000 http://scratchmybrain.com/?p=798#comment-54488 Thanks for the link, Jeff — “legit” is another good example of a word that can be used to detrimental effect, although it’s coming from inside the jazz community lexicon (as opposed to “jazzer”, which is more of a label imposed by journalists and uninformed academics.) Duke Ellington used to call Juan Tizol, the only classically-trained musician in his group, the “cat who could play the legit stuff.” I think you’re right to point out that the history of the term’s usage in the jazz community reflects a certain kind of inferiority complex or self-consciousness with regard to classical music.

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